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“You can hit a missile with a virus – you can’t hit a virus with a missile”

Updated: Jul 27

Aron Heller speaks with Erez Kreiner, Former Director of Israel's Shin Bet Cyber Division, about cyber from the defense perspective


Host Aron Heller speaks with Erez Kreiner, Former Director of the Shin Bet Cyber Division
Host Aron Heller speaks with Erez Kreiner, Former Director of the Shin Bet Cyber Division

Defense Matters is a new podcast by Israel Defense, Cybertech Insider’s sister publication, in association with the Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI). While topics usually focus around firm military and geopolitical challenges, the latest episode is all about cyber and its unimaginable effect on our lives.


The main guest this time is Erez Kreiner, Former Director of the Cyber Division of the Israel Security Agency (ISA, better known as Shin Bet), and currently a Senior Research Fellow at the Institute for Counterterrorism at Reichman University.


Kreiner and host Aron Heller examine the prominent role that cyber plays in today’s world. It is most obvious with regard to cyberattacks, but it also creates civilian “cyber” soldiers within wars and significantly defines alliances in the international arena.


Kreiner explains that “In order to produce a tank you need many resources – but in order to produce a virus, you just need some clever people with computer,” going on to predict that There will not be any kinetic war in the future without an accompanying cyber war – or even maybe as a main part. You can hit a missile with a virus, you can’t hit a virus with a missile. This is a one-way street.”


In the "Game Changer| segment, Heller speaks with Esti Peshin, Vice President and General Manager of the Cyber Division at IAI. She discusses the five aspects of defense against cyber dangers in our world today as well as how IAI technology will help define the concept of cyber in the near future.


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YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-jKoK7blkI


Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1jKIghNN6gEzXIOQYrfdkT


Apple Podcasts:

https://podcasts.apple.com/il/podcast/defense-matters-defense-technology-and-the-powers/id1617512728


Anchor:

https://anchor.fm/dashboard/episode/e1lgsaj

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